Showing posts with label Prius. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Prius. Show all posts

Tuesday, January 4, 2011

Will hybrid cars replace gasoline cars?

In the Prius the gasoline engine has been stripped off many all it's usual moving parts that break down routinely such as the starter motor, distributor cam belts and much more making it a very efficient unit with little that can go wrong - engine wise.

Many cars have been driven for up to 10 years and more with nothing more than oil change, every 2 years and spark plugs only once in that time. This is possible because the engine don't run all the time, possibly only for half the distance the odometer clocked up as in cruise mode and at low speeds the engine does not operate. When it does run it is also at much lower RPM than regular gasoline engine. One would expect the hybrid vehicle to have a much longer useful life than normal gasoline vehicle, except for 1 flaw - The Battery.

After 10 years the battery can cost more than the value of the vehicle to replace. With existing  average age of a country's vehicle fleet at about 15 years this makes the hybrid vehicle more expensive to run and more damaging to the environment in terms of resources used, despite the fact that it is much more economical in fuel consumption. This fact alone makes it an elitist plaything and accounts for it's very poor resale value.

What the hybrid vehicle needs is an enabling technology that can extend that life of the hybrid's main battery. The Power Jockey is one such invention. It enables a much weaker battery to work with the hybrid vehicle drive system.

If we assume that the main battery needs to be at 70% of it's designed strength to function in the vehicle drive train and this position is reached after 7 - 10 years, the Power Jockey can lower this minimum requirement to say 50%. This could stretch the expected useful life of the battery to between 12 - 15 years.

If we add reconditioning and rebuilding of the main battery pack above the minimum capacity threshold we could conceivably extend the useful life of that same single main battery pack for the rest of the useful life of the vehicle. Perhaps 20 - 25 years.

Article in Wall Street Journal 24 September 2012 reports that already 26% of all Toyota's vehicle sales in Japan are Hybrids, while in the US it sold only 176,000 hybrids into the 1.6 million annual vehicle sold there. Toyota predicts that they will sell 1 million hybrids anually by 2015.


TOKYO—Toyota Motor Corp. 7203.TO +0.85% put its weight behind hybrids on Monday, disclosing plans to roll out 21 new or redesigned gasoline-electric powered vehicles by the end of 2015 and playing down the near-term outlook for other alternative-fuel technologies such as all-electric vehicles.
The Japanese auto maker predicted its sales of hybrid models world-wide will likely top 1 million this year and every year through 2015.
While the rollout and forecast signal Toyota's confidence in its hybrid strategy, the company acknowledges costs must still be cut further to increase profitability and spur sales.
"Profits from conventional [gas] powered cars are still higher, so we need to reduce hybrid costs more in order to promote their diffusion," Takeshi Uchiyamada, Toyota's vice chairman and R&D head, said at a news conference.
Hybrids are becoming more mainstream in Japan. Toyota's sales of the gasoline-electric vehicles last year reached 310,000, or 26% of its total sales. But they remain a niche in other key markets such as the U.S. Last year, Toyota sold 178,587 hybrid models in the U.S., just a fraction of the 1.64 million vehicles it sold there overall in 2011.
The Japanese auto maker has high hopes for its "plug-in" hybrid, which can be refueled either at the gas pump or by plugging in to a standard electrical outlet. Cumulative sales of its Prius PHV, which debuted earlier this year, reached 15,600 last month, including 8,400 in Japan, 6,100 in the U.S. and 1,100 in Europe.
At the same, time Toyota plans to sell just 100 models of its newest electric vehicle, a subcompact EV called "eQ." That contrasts with rival Nissan Motor Co.,7201.TO +0.78% which has bet big on EVs with its Leaf compact.
Mr. Uchiyamada said Toyota is moving ahead with plans to localize production in China of hybrid engines by 2015 and hopes to follow suit in the U.S., but said the auto maker has made no decision yet on that.
"We are looking into it, but we haven't reached a formal decision or made any specific plans yet," he said.
Earlier this year, the company announced plans to shift production of its Highlander SUV hybrid to a plant in Indiana, but the core engine components-such as motors, batteries and converters-will continue to be exported from Japan.
Beyond the main thrust into hybrids, Japan's No. 1 auto maker also laid out its strategy in other fields of environmental technology, such as all-electric and fuel cell-powered vehicles. Toyota is tiptoeing into EVs with its first sales this year, and it won't begin commercial sales of a fuel cell vehicle for at least three years.
Mr. Uchiyamada indicated that proprietary technology makes FCVs hold more promising than EVs. "Anybody can make EVs, but that is not the case for FCVs," he said. "So we see a lot more potential in FCVs."
Toyota will begin sales of a compact SUV with an electric engine made by Tesla Motors Inc. TSLA +0.88% this week in the U.S. market, where it hopes to sell 2,600 of the $49,800 RAV4 EVs over a three-year period. The company will also introduce its eQ to such clients as local governments in the U.S. and Japan in December and China sometime next year, but sales of the ¥3.6 million ($46,146) vehicle will be limited to 100 units.
The auto maker said it would launch a fuel cell-powered sedan "around 2015" in Japan, North America and Europe, and collaborate with subsidiary Hino Motors Ltd.HINOY -0.31% to debut a fuel cell bus in 2016. It projected sales of FCVs in the "tens of thousands" by the 2020s.
Separately, Panasonic Corp. 6752.TO +7.21% said Monday it will provide Toyota with lithium-ion batteries for the eQ. Panasonic has a track record with batteries used in eco-friendly vehicles, demand for which is growing amid environmental concerns and higher oil prices.
Panasonic has supplied lithium-ion batteries for Toyota's Prius Plug-in and Prius Alpha hybrids.
—Hiroyuki Kachi contributed to this article.
Write to Chester Dawson at chester.dawson@wsj.com


For more information about the Power Jockey go to The Battery Clinic website www.thebatteryclinic.com.

Saturday, April 11, 2009

Toyota Scan Tool

This message from Kevin in the Yahoo Mk1 Prius Forum

I own a Prius Mk1 and have done a considerable amount of
research on the scanning of this car. Despite the fact that it has a
> > > standard 16 pin OBD connector, it is one of the first few cars to use
> > > the 16 pin connector BEFORE it was adopted as any sort of standard.
> > > The standard of "OBD-11" only applied as compulsory in the USA from
> > > 1995 anyway, and car manufacturers only had to comply with OBD-11 if
> > > they wished to sell there cars in the USA from 1995. Toyota did not
> > > wish to sell their Prius Mk1 outside of Japan and the 1995 OBD-11
> > > protocols around at the time did not suit their needs, as they were
> > > inadequate for this car. I can reveal that the car is using "Toyota M-
> > > OBD", Toyota multiplex onboard diagnostics acording to people who
> > > specalise in toyota OBD.
> > >
> > > In the 16 pin connector (correctly known as the J1962 socket) the
> > > pins are as follows :-
> > > pin 16 = battery
> > > pin 4 = ground
> > > pin 13= test pin
> > > pins 6,7,9,14 are communication pins
> > >
> > > the Prius Mk1 uses a ECU for each of ,the engine, the ABS, the
> > > airbag, the Hybrid running gear and finally the Hybrid battery.
> > >
> > > Toyota themselves use a "Techmaster scantool" with an "S2000"
> > > cartridge adaptor, with software that they wrote themselves just for
> > > this car, only available to Toyota maindealers in Japan. The software
> > > itself uses "keyword protocols", (that's code words to you and me),
> > > using ALDL speeds of communication ( Assembly Line Diagnostic Link),
> > > now known communally as OBD-1 speeds of communication, first used
> > > commonally by General motors in the mid 1980's.
> > >
> > > The problem with getting a scan tool to handle the prius Mk1 is, that
> > > the scan tool needs to handle "Toyota M-OBD" keyword protacols, It
> > > also deeds to have a "J1962 connector" with the correct pin
> > > configuration. .
> > >
> > > All OBD-1 and OBD-11 dedicatated scantools will not work on this
> > > car !!!!!!
> > > I know, I have tried several of them that are on the market. Some of
> > > them costing several thousand of pounds.
> > > There are some of the more expensive ones that do the Prius MK11(
> > > which is OBD-11 compliant using more common keyword protocols) and
> > > Prius Mk111&1V using OBD-11 "CAN" (continuose area network protocols).
> > >
> > > So "what's to do then"?
> > >
> > > The only "After market" scan tools that are known to read the OBD's
> > > of the Prius Mk1 cars are the "Carman" scan tools range made by
> > > Nextech. The Carman A200( now discontinued) , the carman scan lite and
> > > the Carman VG. The scantools also have to have the september 2007
> > > software update to get the best results as well. The carman scan lite
> > > is £1500 ($3000) retail.
> > >
> > > I own a Carman scan lite, and the scan tool Is "brilliant", as it
> > > leaves no stone unturned, you can get all the information from the
> > > car that you need on any aspect.
> > >
> > > All 20 of Prs of modules in the Hybrid battery are shown including
> > > voltages, Ohms, temp of each Pr. Also the overall max and min
> > > voltages and temperatures of the monitoring system and exact % of
> > > overall charge as well as information on every sensor on the whole
> > > car.
> > > it will give you all the trouble codes on each of the ECU's and
> > > enable you to reset them as well.
> > >
> > > The only down side to the Carman scan tools are that they do not "
> > > flash" the ECU's, that is to say that, as of yet, the software dose
> > > not turn the " balance charge request" from "OFF" to "ON" and back
> > > again, even though you can see it on the scan.
> > >
> > > One of the problems with these cars is that the cells in the Hybrid
> > > battery are an early type of "high capacity" NM-Hi, and over time
> > > they may suffer from the " battery memory affect", problem similar
> > > to NI-CAD cells, and they discharge more rapidly if left unused for
> > > any length of time as well. Toyota thought to overcome this problem
> > > by using their scantool to do the "balance charge request"
> > > manouver ,by using the cars own charging system,( a full
> > > overall/across the board 110% charge) to rejuvenate the whole Battery
> > > in one go, if this failed they would fit a free RE-CON battery
> > > instead, all though this was rare. So sadly, we "outside of Japan"
> > > owners can only strip the Hybrid Battery down ( be careful they are
> > > 315 DC volts when fully charged, from first to last terminal,
> > > according to my carman scantool info, electricians tools and gloves
> > > required). You then have to rejuvenate each module, one at a time,
> > > replacing any failed ones, and finally rebuild the battery again
> > > using as evenly as balanced pairs as you can. The Carman scan lite
> > > can help you monitor this Process but " If only" it cannot do the
> > > balance charge manouver as of yet as I have said. Some cars go on and
> > > on, without problems ( 100,000 miles +) with the battery, some have
> > > stripped the battery down and replaced a " too good" a module, to
> > > achieve a balance. So until hopefully, Carman sortout a "balance
> > > charge manouver" setting on thier scan tool, in one of their future
> > > software updates, we will still have to do this by hand. Other wise
> > > the carman scan tools covers everything else and is unique.
> > >